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    I used to enjoy bottling until that first keg ... then I asked myself "how on earth could you enjoy bottling that much? ... kegging is da bomb bitch"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewald Posthumus View Post
    So you were just being obtuse because I used a word that offended you?

    I have split a batch whereby I bottled 20 liters for my brother and kegged 30 liters for myself. I tasted both, I prefer the kegged version.
    +1 I will take any of my kegged beers over the previous ones that i bottled ... hard to explain, but it just tastes better.
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    I bottel because that's what I have and don't feel it's too much effort for the reward. So I can't compare to kegging.

    What I'd like to know is, if you keg a batch, what is it you have to do wrt cleaning? You obviously clean the keg, do you also clean all the posts on say a corny, the beer lines and tap. Or is that a once every couple of brews type of thing? Then the maintenance costs involved also. Has anyone tried to work out the cost of kegging once you have all the equipment? Been wondering about that since I started thinking of getting into the whole keg thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudiC View Post
    I bottel because that's what I have and don't feel it's too much effort for the reward. So I can't compare to kegging.

    What I'd like to know is, if you keg a batch, what is it you have to do wrt cleaning? You obviously clean the keg, do you also clean all the posts on say a corny, the beer lines and tap. Or is that a once every couple of brews type of thing? Then the maintenance costs involved also. Has anyone tried to work out the cost of kegging once you have all the equipment? Been wondering about that since I started thinking of getting into the whole keg thing.

    Once the keg is empty I fill it with 2L boiled water and a few scoops of SPC (±20g) ... close and shake... then add a little pressure and push solution through the line and tap ... takes 2min.

    Fill keg with a little sanitizer and pressure to push that through line and tap ... it stays like that until I keg again.

    Every 5-8 brews i will strip the keg and taps and give them a proper clean (soak in SPC)

    O-rings on lid and post get lube with every fill.

    Maintenance so far AFAIK has only been filling COČ every few months (and a fridge that had to be replaced but not really related to kegging only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewald Posthumus View Post
    Breweries will age their beers in barrels or kegs, so no need to age in bottles...
    Some breweries will age in barrels or kegs. Plenty examples, specially bigger and darker beers, are aged in bottles, similar to wines. Specifically mentioning things like Belgian Tripels and Imperial Stouts here. Most guys here don't brew them. Let's face it, South Africa has a "light lager" mentality. We (yes, all of us) has a thing for a light lager. That's why Castle Lite does so well.

    For me, a lager (any lager, doesn't have to be light), shines when it's sat in bulk aging, not in a bottle. That's why I prefer my kegs. I make a lot of lagers these days, and I absolutely ADORE what bulk aging (or aging in the keg) does for it. It's fantastic. Nothing else lets that crisp notes shine like bulk aging. Bottle aging, IMO, imparts too much yeast influence over time, which is something you don't want in the beers we typically enjoy.

  6. #26
    I have tasted many a kegged beer and do not get the "it tastes better" part.
    Mybe they are not the greatest brewers.
    Mybe my taste is not sensitive enough, which could likely be true as I have below average sense of smell.
    So kegging would have no taste benifit for me.
    Everyone must beleive in something, I beleive I'll have another beer

  7. #27
    How do you know when your keg is close to empty ?.
    Most keg setups have a drip try, is there a lot of waste ?.
    Maintenence of running a keg setup i.e. o-ring replacements, replacement of other components etc. ?
    Cost of CO2 and how often to refill ?.
    Everyone must beleive in something, I beleive I'll have another beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewald Posthumus View Post
    So you were just being obtuse because I used a word that offended you?

    I have split a batch whereby I bottled 20 liters for my brother and kegged 30 liters for myself. I tasted both, I prefer the kegged version.

    No I am being Acute.
    Everyone must beleive in something, I beleive I'll have another beer

  9. #29
    My kegging system is an old SAB kegging system with a chill plate that I bought from a second hand store for R1k some years ago.

    I don't have a drip tray, have a jockey box - minimal spillage - as in milliliters.

    I regularly check my kegs by weight and will have a good idea of when I'm empty, I brew every three to four weeks and never run out of beer (50 liter batches)

    SPC - 5kg = R250: I use 50g at most to clean the keg when it's finished, and run that solution through the entire system.
    Co2 - R70 for a 2kg refill - every two to three months.
    O-ring replacements - once a year at R50 per keg.

    If I was to bottle 50 liter batches:

    120 bottles for a batch = R750 - I would have to buy 3*48 boxes.
    Emily bottle capper = R550
    Bottling bucket plus tap = R100
    Siphon = R150
    Caps 200 = R90
    And all sorts of other paraphernalia.

    Adds up to R1640

    Kegging 50 liters:
    My keg setup = R1000
    Keg = R400
    Co2 bottle = R1000

    Adds up to R2400

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerHolic View Post
    No I am being Acute.
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